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The Scuttlebutt's avatar

Well I'm not quite old enough to have done any stomping around in Old Iran, but I did run into several of their sailors in my earliest days in the fleet. They were at FLEASWTRACENPAC learning how to operate the sonar systems for the Iranian versions of the Spruance class, the four vessels that the USN eventually bought and nicknamed "the Ayatollah class." Like Spruance but optimized for hot weather and AAW.

A few of the lower ranks were OK in a very culturally weird way, (Bathing seemed very optional, and men holding hands in uniform was "the thing") but their senior guys and the CWO in charge of the det, where another story.

When the revolution went down, they were all offered asylum by State. They turned it down, in a screaming revolutionary fervor, shouting "ISLAM, ISLAM!" So DOD and State let them go, they boarded a plane, and flew home. Where they were marched off the plane, lined up on the runway, and machinegunned to death for being "contaminated with western ideals."

So I'm not as much of a fan of the average Hasib.

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Brian L Juergensmeyer's avatar

I’ve been following things with interest, and some background level of knowledge. Part of me wishes that NCA wouldn’t have made those protective comments, as it sounds very much like we’re starting to bump up against the red line he drew. I don’t really see any sort of kinetic option working well for us.

The other thing is that I hope very much that we keep our (or at least the CIA’s) noses out of the regime-change aspect of this. We’ve had a long and not very fruitful history of meddling in that neck of the woods. In the end, we had nothing to show for it other than a bunch of torqued-off locals. Once Iran ceases being “The Islamic Republic of” and they’ve begun a stable transition, I’m all for giving what aid makes sense. But if there’s even a public perception that our thumbs are on the scale, that whole situation will go pear-shaped for another 50 years.

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