I will add something. If the person you are there to save, doesn't want saving, or suddenly wants to 'wait for something'. It is time to GO. Tell them you are leaving, and they can 'stay here and die'.
Some people who put themselves in dangerous situations are incredibly stoopid and/or naive. They don't really understand what's about to happen (or they wouldn't likely have gotten into the situation in the first place). So unless you're willing & able to pick them up and go, just... GO.
Hopefully survival will kick in and they'll leave with you.
(In my case, it did and they left with me - but I was in no way about to take a possibly fatal beating because they had a case of the ass. Personal survival always trumps other people's stupidity).
I treat it like I do Confined Space training for work. If somebody’s in the hole and they suddenly pass out, I’m not going in after them. Hopefully, that individual was smart enough to don a sniffer before they went down (so we can alert them of a toxic atmosphere before they pass out) and rescue equipment so I can winch them out; if not, they’re gonna have to wait until the fire department comes in with their rescue gear. If I go in after them, we’re just gonna have two dead bodies to pull out.
Some advice I got before leaving for Iraq as a contractor on a medical mission: wear clothes that don’t melt when exposed to fire and shoes you can run in.
-Make sure your car is nice & nonpolitical. If it's got political stickers all over it, don't take it. If it's a Tesla, doubly so.
-Be willing to agree with the mob, if cornered. Give them the power fist, chant along with them, agree with them- whatever to make them thing you are one of them. It's not a good time for a political argument.
-Be polite.
-Don't drive in a way that would draw attention from the mob.
For the sunglasses, consider getting a safety rated pair rather than the El Cheapo. Yes, pricier, and requires a little bit of preplanning. But ... Improved, probably much improved, impact resistance, and if they fit well they will also provide some protection against dirt and stuff being blown in from the sides. Most any industrial supply place will carry some options to choose from.
If the crowds have decided it's "fun with lasers" week, you can get laser safety glasses with high optical density in various common laser wavelengths. This will take even more preplanning, though, but again something to keep in mind. Here, I'd probably start looking with ThorLabs.
And it's also very possible that the best thing for your friend in an endangered urban area is to just sit tight, barricade themselves, and wait a few days for things to blow over.
It's a risk, but so is trying to move through an angry mob. If you can't get out before the mass exodus, it may be better to shelter in place- better than being trapped in a car, stuck in a traffic jam, and subject to the full fury of the thing you are trying to get away from.
My preference would be something low key, but classic- like a M3 Lee tank, because there would be space inside, and the extra guns could be an asset. I suspect 'a taste of grape' out of that 75 would disincline a mob from getting too close.
If the kind people that are mostly peacefully demonstrating request you unass your vehicle through the window they are beating on, remember Reginald Denny.
Keep tabs on college, business, government buildings if you see group leaving in a controlled way, early evacuation might be happening. Managers might say leave early, do so. College social media or campus police.
Know alternative ways to get home.
Have a go bag at work.
Stay away from staging areas. Don’t announce it either.
Find out routes protestor are taking, again social media helpful here, avoid area.
Please write one of these if you are at work.
Sort of happened to me.
Be situational aware of what is going on around you at all times.
There's a subtle but noticeable shift in the people on the street when things are getting ready to go wahooni shaped.
It's a good reason to keep your head out and eyes open when driving. And it's a good reason to have that alternative way to get out of town that avoids any traffic chokepoints. Which you should have worked out well ahead of time.
Very interesting information you’ve provided here, thank you Bugscuffle Gazette, you smart fox. And I’m liking the extra security that Substack is providing for your posts and readers. I can see why you would need it.
From an Australian & British perspective, the US gun lobby’s insistence on the right to bear arms is bizarre, given the number of people killed by people using them. And the stats speak for themselves. I am aware of the dynamics that led to this strangehold, but nevertheless, bizarre.
I recently watched a video where Obama was speaking at a memorial for schoolchildren who had died in a mass shooting. He stopped partway thru, no words to say, just started singing Amazing Grace and everyone joined in.
The USA is no longer the Wild West where ‘injuns’ need to be talked off their own lands - and the amazing animals with them. You guys have done it - McDonalds, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Starbucks. What a shining example to the world Big USA corporations have provided to the world.
And how well have they served their own people…..as shareholder bank accounts get fat and fat people get diabetes….
Last year, a colleague from our Texas office visited us and said that they purchase beef imported from Australia, because Australian cattle are grass fed & the industrialisation process is less severe. Texans buying Australian beef. What’s wrong this picture.
I’d have to go back and have a look at Temple Grandin’s contribution to the beef slaughtering business. But off the cuff, alarm bells start ringing if it’s been left to a woman with autism. Great problemsolving skills, but what about empathy and compassion for animals and animal rights?
‘Humane’ is just ‘human’ with an e chucked in at the end of it. If you had a chat with a cow and explained to her where she was going to end up, I don’t think humane would really cut it. In her 4 hooves, I would prefer to be where nature intended. In a grassy meadow, eating flowers and popping out young ones with my herd mates, until I went belly up. E. xx
The right to self-defense is a right, which is to say, no matter how bizarre you or anybody else feels it to be, it inheres in every individual simply by the fact of his existence.
Also, the stats you know conveniently leave out the number of lives saved simply because a potential victim was armed. The number of mutants who nope out of a criminal action when they see possible consequences is enormous, and rarely recorded, let alone reported.
Hi Mr Fleming, saw your post & have only just figured out that I could have replied directly to you here, rather than thru the fox substack. Such a complex issue, thanks for helping to fill in some of the blanks, especially a bloke’s perspective, which I don’t often hear.
It’s information I would not have learned elsewhere, by the way, because I don’t follow social media & I don’t watch the news, but it comes up so I am curious, particularly as it’s seen as something connected with US identity.
I sincerely wish for you & your family that you enjoy the life you want & don’t get caught up in any violence. Life’s so precious & we’re all here for such a short time. Please also say hello to the moon for me. I’m having a brandy right nie, it’s chilly & cloudy where I am, but the moon looks pretty full. E xx
I would add, *plastic frame* Dollar Store sunglasses, sans separate nose pads.
Having had amd seen metal framed (or nose pads with metal stalks) snap under unanticipated kinetic inputs and then gouge the ever loving Jesus out of the face, this is not a place for the $15 aviator clones... the failure mode of the cheap plastic typically used in such frames is better for the intended purpose of "ID concealment" and a modicum of eyepro, if things go physical in your face.
Because you won't see blood on black gloves. When you're assessing for injuries, you run your hands along the body as well as look. Tear gas, pepper spray, and/or adrenaline may compromise your fine visual acuity.
Red blood on black gloves will probably be missed. Red blood on light blue gloves will stand out.
If there's a possibility of being separated, you might want to take in some FRS (Family Radio Service) radios. There's several that are FRS/GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) And those are fine. But GMRS does require a license which is a potential identification point. I doubt that the FCC is going to go after people in that situation, but it's easier to not deal with it.
If you are using radios, practice using them first. Do not try using them to communicate for the first time in the emergency. There are people who buy cheap Baofeng ham radios (Baofeng is the Hi Point of ham radio, if I have to explain Hi Point, what are you doing here?) and store them without getting licensed or using them first.
While it's true that the way that the law is written that any means of communication is permissible to save life and/or property, if you're going into the situation without having practiced before you're not going to know what to do.
Also be familiar with local laws. In AL, for instance, it is illegal to be armed within a certain distance of a public demonstration, 1000 ft if memory serves me correctly.
Do they make any concessions for the "public demonstration" rapidly closing in on your location?
As in, supposing you're sitting a fat mile from the "demonstration", but then they - unbeknownst to you but knownst to them - decide that another place closer to you is The Place To Be, and you quickly find yourself within that 1000-foot Safety Circle, are you at fault?
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer, to have in his or her possession or on his or her person or in any vehicle any firearm while participating in or attending any demonstration being held at a public place.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer as defined in subsection (a) of this section, to have in his or her possession or about his or her person or in any vehicle at a point within 1,000 feet of a demonstration at a public place, any firearm after having first been advised by a law enforcement officer that a demonstration was taking place at a public place and after having been ordered by such officer to remove himself or herself from the prescribed area until such time as he or she no longer was in possession of any firearm. This subsection shall not apply to any person in possession of or having on his or her person any firearm within a private dwelling or other private building or structure.
(d) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided by law.
Interesting. I'm assuming that's a copy-paste of the actual statute, yes?
IANAL, but if so, then:
1. There's no allowance for "moving demonstrations". That's unfortunate but understandable; the drafters of the law probably did not envision such things.
2. There IS an allowance for "flash mob" demonstrations that you didn't know would be in the vicinity.
It's interesting that the law specifies "having first been advised by a law enforcement officer" and "having been ordered by such officer". Basically treating it like trespassing; you have to have been told to leave before it's enforceable.
So if you find yourself in the middle of the "demonstration" -- however you got there -- if you keep your head down and avoid notice by law enforcement (which is a good goal anyway, if you're not part of the "demonstration"), *in theory* you should be fine.
And if you are stopped by law enforcement and "advised" and "ordered", *in theory* you can say you're trying to comply and leave -- which is true.
BA, I've been retired from the Troopers for 29 years. As you noted, it requires an officer to advise what the law is and be told to go secure your firearm outside of the 1000 foot radius if you want to return and participate in the demonstration. True, the Legislature did not envision a moving demonstration, but that would make it easier in my mind to explain to an officer who discovered you were armed that you were complying and are now trying to get away from the demonstration. Hopefully your encounter with an officer would be with one who is fully aware of the requirements of the law and reasonable enough to let you get away. Unfortunately, not all officers today are fully aware of the specifications of laws, nor reasonable enough to consider all the aspects of the law or their actions.
On a side note, AL also has a "no masks in public" law, but it is just a violation and not even a misdemeanor.
Hello again, thank you - I genuinely appeciate the comments that have been generated in regards to my repsonse, starting with the comment by D. Jason Fleming.
I say that because I was brought up in a household dominated by my mother, who was by that stage divorced twice with 4 children to 2 fathers, putting herself thru study while we were all still children, all of us financed by social security, and at that time, a free education.
She, like many mothers who miraculously somehow became lesbians, boasted that she was as good and if not better than any man. Well, perhaps she should have been more specific, because the ‘men’ ie father, brother & uncle, were all sexually abusing her and her sisters, when they weren’t out screwing other men’s wives or bashing up their own.
My mother really could pick ‘em. My father, a German country lad from Potsdam, who was damaged by his experiences growing up during the war, and my stepfather, first gen Dalmatian, who was violent.
Because left his own country & his family to get as far away as possible from the ongoing dramas there after the 2nd world war, I never had the opportunity to meet any of them nor indeed even knew of their existence.
I’m digressing, but it is relevant, firstly because I could never identify with Australian Anzac Legends, given that Germans are always the enemy, I had no male models or mentors as a result of my stepfather’s aggressive behaviour which drove everyone away & isolated us as a family unit.
I recently met an older man, who told me how his fathet volunteered to defend Darwin Harbour, as a leutenant in charge of the men in his command. By contrast my mother’s father deliberately shot himself in the hand. That’s white Tasmanian dutch courage for you, and I’ve got no doubt he would have been grogged up to aenethetise himself before he took the pot shot.
My point is, in meeting someone recently whose father did step up honourably when needed, it has enabled me to fill in some blanks in regards to otherwised skewed understandings of when warriors do need to step. The example of the Memphis Rose is just one of these instances.
By the way, my Opa was a dairy farmer who was conscripted. I would imagine that my Onkel Martin & Fritz were co-opted into the Hitler youth. My Opa returned to find a new world order and a wife with 5 young children, traumatised no doubt by the type of hospitality she was expect to provide, by anyone who wanted it, especially those ones with uniforms & guns.
What a godawful mess, which only the weathly industrialists, royalty & bigots get to profit from.
Even Tibetan Buddhist philosophy recognises there are times when only warriors will suffice. Yoga philosophy also. Me? I walk in the light & if push comes to shove, I lawyer up. Not easy to do these days now that my financial resources are depleted. Nevertheless. I recognise when someone is shooting at you, taking it up the backside may not always be the best move strategically. One has to man up.
I will add something. If the person you are there to save, doesn't want saving, or suddenly wants to 'wait for something'. It is time to GO. Tell them you are leaving, and they can 'stay here and die'.
Some people who put themselves in dangerous situations are incredibly stoopid and/or naive. They don't really understand what's about to happen (or they wouldn't likely have gotten into the situation in the first place). So unless you're willing & able to pick them up and go, just... GO.
Hopefully survival will kick in and they'll leave with you.
(In my case, it did and they left with me - but I was in no way about to take a possibly fatal beating because they had a case of the ass. Personal survival always trumps other people's stupidity).
Listen to John. Set a limit for hanging around, and make it stick.
I treat it like I do Confined Space training for work. If somebody’s in the hole and they suddenly pass out, I’m not going in after them. Hopefully, that individual was smart enough to don a sniffer before they went down (so we can alert them of a toxic atmosphere before they pass out) and rescue equipment so I can winch them out; if not, they’re gonna have to wait until the fire department comes in with their rescue gear. If I go in after them, we’re just gonna have two dead bodies to pull out.
You have wisdom, young padawan.
Some advice I got before leaving for Iraq as a contractor on a medical mission: wear clothes that don’t melt when exposed to fire and shoes you can run in.
Lord, feral humans adore their fire.
Some other thoughts:
-Make sure your car is nice & nonpolitical. If it's got political stickers all over it, don't take it. If it's a Tesla, doubly so.
-Be willing to agree with the mob, if cornered. Give them the power fist, chant along with them, agree with them- whatever to make them thing you are one of them. It's not a good time for a political argument.
-Be polite.
-Don't drive in a way that would draw attention from the mob.
More wisdom here.
In case you missed this by Robert Avrech from 2013 - https://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/jew-without-gun.htm
For the sunglasses, consider getting a safety rated pair rather than the El Cheapo. Yes, pricier, and requires a little bit of preplanning. But ... Improved, probably much improved, impact resistance, and if they fit well they will also provide some protection against dirt and stuff being blown in from the sides. Most any industrial supply place will carry some options to choose from.
If the crowds have decided it's "fun with lasers" week, you can get laser safety glasses with high optical density in various common laser wavelengths. This will take even more preplanning, though, but again something to keep in mind. Here, I'd probably start looking with ThorLabs.
And it's also very possible that the best thing for your friend in an endangered urban area is to just sit tight, barricade themselves, and wait a few days for things to blow over.
It's a risk, but so is trying to move through an angry mob. If you can't get out before the mass exodus, it may be better to shelter in place- better than being trapped in a car, stuck in a traffic jam, and subject to the full fury of the thing you are trying to get away from.
Of course, if you have something like this,
https://youtu.be/ZQ4sDY4xkW8?si=tt_7UndxDKXLL287
you may be able to get in and out easier.
My preference would be something low key, but classic- like a M3 Lee tank, because there would be space inside, and the extra guns could be an asset. I suspect 'a taste of grape' out of that 75 would disincline a mob from getting too close.
If the kind people that are mostly peacefully demonstrating request you unass your vehicle through the window they are beating on, remember Reginald Denny.
Then apply pressure to the pedal on the right.
Keep tabs on college, business, government buildings if you see group leaving in a controlled way, early evacuation might be happening. Managers might say leave early, do so. College social media or campus police.
Know alternative ways to get home.
Have a go bag at work.
Stay away from staging areas. Don’t announce it either.
Find out routes protestor are taking, again social media helpful here, avoid area.
Please write one of these if you are at work.
Sort of happened to me.
Be situational aware of what is going on around you at all times.
There's a subtle but noticeable shift in the people on the street when things are getting ready to go wahooni shaped.
It's a good reason to keep your head out and eyes open when driving. And it's a good reason to have that alternative way to get out of town that avoids any traffic chokepoints. Which you should have worked out well ahead of time.
Burner phone with you?
Very interesting information you’ve provided here, thank you Bugscuffle Gazette, you smart fox. And I’m liking the extra security that Substack is providing for your posts and readers. I can see why you would need it.
From an Australian & British perspective, the US gun lobby’s insistence on the right to bear arms is bizarre, given the number of people killed by people using them. And the stats speak for themselves. I am aware of the dynamics that led to this strangehold, but nevertheless, bizarre.
I recently watched a video where Obama was speaking at a memorial for schoolchildren who had died in a mass shooting. He stopped partway thru, no words to say, just started singing Amazing Grace and everyone joined in.
The USA is no longer the Wild West where ‘injuns’ need to be talked off their own lands - and the amazing animals with them. You guys have done it - McDonalds, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Starbucks. What a shining example to the world Big USA corporations have provided to the world.
And how well have they served their own people…..as shareholder bank accounts get fat and fat people get diabetes….
Last year, a colleague from our Texas office visited us and said that they purchase beef imported from Australia, because Australian cattle are grass fed & the industrialisation process is less severe. Texans buying Australian beef. What’s wrong this picture.
I’d have to go back and have a look at Temple Grandin’s contribution to the beef slaughtering business. But off the cuff, alarm bells start ringing if it’s been left to a woman with autism. Great problemsolving skills, but what about empathy and compassion for animals and animal rights?
‘Humane’ is just ‘human’ with an e chucked in at the end of it. If you had a chat with a cow and explained to her where she was going to end up, I don’t think humane would really cut it. In her 4 hooves, I would prefer to be where nature intended. In a grassy meadow, eating flowers and popping out young ones with my herd mates, until I went belly up. E. xx
The right to self-defense is a right, which is to say, no matter how bizarre you or anybody else feels it to be, it inheres in every individual simply by the fact of his existence.
Also, the stats you know conveniently leave out the number of lives saved simply because a potential victim was armed. The number of mutants who nope out of a criminal action when they see possible consequences is enormous, and rarely recorded, let alone reported.
Stay where you are for the next 4 years. Don’t leave. We got this. You should keep wearing your mask also.
Hi Mr Fleming, saw your post & have only just figured out that I could have replied directly to you here, rather than thru the fox substack. Such a complex issue, thanks for helping to fill in some of the blanks, especially a bloke’s perspective, which I don’t often hear.
It’s information I would not have learned elsewhere, by the way, because I don’t follow social media & I don’t watch the news, but it comes up so I am curious, particularly as it’s seen as something connected with US identity.
I sincerely wish for you & your family that you enjoy the life you want & don’t get caught up in any violence. Life’s so precious & we’re all here for such a short time. Please also say hello to the moon for me. I’m having a brandy right nie, it’s chilly & cloudy where I am, but the moon looks pretty full. E xx
I would add, *plastic frame* Dollar Store sunglasses, sans separate nose pads.
Having had amd seen metal framed (or nose pads with metal stalks) snap under unanticipated kinetic inputs and then gouge the ever loving Jesus out of the face, this is not a place for the $15 aviator clones... the failure mode of the cheap plastic typically used in such frames is better for the intended purpose of "ID concealment" and a modicum of eyepro, if things go physical in your face.
What’s the reason for not using black nitrile gloves, versus blue ones? Is it because folks will think you’re a fed, or is there another reason?
Because you won't see blood on black gloves. When you're assessing for injuries, you run your hands along the body as well as look. Tear gas, pepper spray, and/or adrenaline may compromise your fine visual acuity.
Red blood on black gloves will probably be missed. Red blood on light blue gloves will stand out.
Ah. Good to know, thank you
If there's a possibility of being separated, you might want to take in some FRS (Family Radio Service) radios. There's several that are FRS/GMRS (General Mobile Radio Service) And those are fine. But GMRS does require a license which is a potential identification point. I doubt that the FCC is going to go after people in that situation, but it's easier to not deal with it.
If you are using radios, practice using them first. Do not try using them to communicate for the first time in the emergency. There are people who buy cheap Baofeng ham radios (Baofeng is the Hi Point of ham radio, if I have to explain Hi Point, what are you doing here?) and store them without getting licensed or using them first.
While it's true that the way that the law is written that any means of communication is permissible to save life and/or property, if you're going into the situation without having practiced before you're not going to know what to do.
https://www.fakenamegenerator.com/ is a tool authors and others sometimes use to generate random names and addresses that are plausible.
Also be familiar with local laws. In AL, for instance, it is illegal to be armed within a certain distance of a public demonstration, 1000 ft if memory serves me correctly.
Do they make any concessions for the "public demonstration" rapidly closing in on your location?
As in, supposing you're sitting a fat mile from the "demonstration", but then they - unbeknownst to you but knownst to them - decide that another place closer to you is The Place To Be, and you quickly find yourself within that 1000-foot Safety Circle, are you at fault?
(b) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer, to have in his or her possession or on his or her person or in any vehicle any firearm while participating in or attending any demonstration being held at a public place.
(c) It shall be unlawful for any person, other than a law enforcement officer as defined in subsection (a) of this section, to have in his or her possession or about his or her person or in any vehicle at a point within 1,000 feet of a demonstration at a public place, any firearm after having first been advised by a law enforcement officer that a demonstration was taking place at a public place and after having been ordered by such officer to remove himself or herself from the prescribed area until such time as he or she no longer was in possession of any firearm. This subsection shall not apply to any person in possession of or having on his or her person any firearm within a private dwelling or other private building or structure.
(d) Any person violating any of the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished as provided by law.
Interesting. I'm assuming that's a copy-paste of the actual statute, yes?
IANAL, but if so, then:
1. There's no allowance for "moving demonstrations". That's unfortunate but understandable; the drafters of the law probably did not envision such things.
2. There IS an allowance for "flash mob" demonstrations that you didn't know would be in the vicinity.
It's interesting that the law specifies "having first been advised by a law enforcement officer" and "having been ordered by such officer". Basically treating it like trespassing; you have to have been told to leave before it's enforceable.
So if you find yourself in the middle of the "demonstration" -- however you got there -- if you keep your head down and avoid notice by law enforcement (which is a good goal anyway, if you're not part of the "demonstration"), *in theory* you should be fine.
And if you are stopped by law enforcement and "advised" and "ordered", *in theory* you can say you're trying to comply and leave -- which is true.
BA, I've been retired from the Troopers for 29 years. As you noted, it requires an officer to advise what the law is and be told to go secure your firearm outside of the 1000 foot radius if you want to return and participate in the demonstration. True, the Legislature did not envision a moving demonstration, but that would make it easier in my mind to explain to an officer who discovered you were armed that you were complying and are now trying to get away from the demonstration. Hopefully your encounter with an officer would be with one who is fully aware of the requirements of the law and reasonable enough to let you get away. Unfortunately, not all officers today are fully aware of the specifications of laws, nor reasonable enough to consider all the aspects of the law or their actions.
On a side note, AL also has a "no masks in public" law, but it is just a violation and not even a misdemeanor.
Hello again, thank you - I genuinely appeciate the comments that have been generated in regards to my repsonse, starting with the comment by D. Jason Fleming.
I say that because I was brought up in a household dominated by my mother, who was by that stage divorced twice with 4 children to 2 fathers, putting herself thru study while we were all still children, all of us financed by social security, and at that time, a free education.
She, like many mothers who miraculously somehow became lesbians, boasted that she was as good and if not better than any man. Well, perhaps she should have been more specific, because the ‘men’ ie father, brother & uncle, were all sexually abusing her and her sisters, when they weren’t out screwing other men’s wives or bashing up their own.
My mother really could pick ‘em. My father, a German country lad from Potsdam, who was damaged by his experiences growing up during the war, and my stepfather, first gen Dalmatian, who was violent.
Because left his own country & his family to get as far away as possible from the ongoing dramas there after the 2nd world war, I never had the opportunity to meet any of them nor indeed even knew of their existence.
I’m digressing, but it is relevant, firstly because I could never identify with Australian Anzac Legends, given that Germans are always the enemy, I had no male models or mentors as a result of my stepfather’s aggressive behaviour which drove everyone away & isolated us as a family unit.
I recently met an older man, who told me how his fathet volunteered to defend Darwin Harbour, as a leutenant in charge of the men in his command. By contrast my mother’s father deliberately shot himself in the hand. That’s white Tasmanian dutch courage for you, and I’ve got no doubt he would have been grogged up to aenethetise himself before he took the pot shot.
My point is, in meeting someone recently whose father did step up honourably when needed, it has enabled me to fill in some blanks in regards to otherwised skewed understandings of when warriors do need to step. The example of the Memphis Rose is just one of these instances.
By the way, my Opa was a dairy farmer who was conscripted. I would imagine that my Onkel Martin & Fritz were co-opted into the Hitler youth. My Opa returned to find a new world order and a wife with 5 young children, traumatised no doubt by the type of hospitality she was expect to provide, by anyone who wanted it, especially those ones with uniforms & guns.
What a godawful mess, which only the weathly industrialists, royalty & bigots get to profit from.
Even Tibetan Buddhist philosophy recognises there are times when only warriors will suffice. Yoga philosophy also. Me? I walk in the light & if push comes to shove, I lawyer up. Not easy to do these days now that my financial resources are depleted. Nevertheless. I recognise when someone is shooting at you, taking it up the backside may not always be the best move strategically. One has to man up.
That’s why I love David Baldacci novels. E xx