Yeah... there's a *world* of difference between Dr., RN, & Teachers blood dancing and celebrating and some idiot rubbing one out to the blood splatter.
I've been chewing on this exact issue for a couple of days now, and... yeah... I find the possibilities of deliberate neglect and deliberate harm by/from 'professionals' both more possible than I want to believe.
What gives me cold chills are the ones who feel that way but retain the common fucking sense not to verbalize it. It really wasn't something I had thought about before these videos.
Ditto. Was born in the 1940s, spent my first 43 years as a USAF brat & active duty sailor and then in merit based employment. Other than a background vibe the past 2 decades nothing gave me cold chills. Maybe I have lived in an insular bubble. I feel a chill now. Antonio Gramsci must be smiling up from Hell.
Part of the problem is that I used to work in that field (healthcare). I honestly don't know how anyone in that field can't become a conservative BECAUSE of that field. But I know plenty who aren't….
So I guess I need to be a little paranoid when dealing with phlebotomists, triage nurses, lab techs, and ear wax removal technicians. Maybe even the guy or gal boxing up my fried chicken at KFC.
When I was a little kid, a political figure, whom my parents disagreed with, was assassinated. Being a stupid little kid, I said "Good."
My dad, who was a military veteran who served in combat, ripped me a new one. He was livid at my response, and rightly so. He made it clear that disagreement was no reason to kill someone, or to celebrate someone's death.
I am grateful to God for giving me a dad who corrected me when I acted like the stupid, immature little kid that I was. He helped me to grow up. Too bad these medical "professionals" didn't have someone in their lives to help them outgrow their toxic childishness, and grow up.
I hate to say it but the proof of that your father showed was hysterical. Me I'd flunk. On the other hand I have been known to be mistaken for Italian. Guinea in the more choice vocabulary of NYC streets. I did not know whether to be insulted or complimented. I have always thought I have the map of Jerusalem on my face. No big nose though. Please keep these posts coming.
The genius of that story is manifold. Ian's father understood how men in that part of the world communicate, and he had the wisdom to resort to a method that settled the question unequivocally. By all accounts, he was a mighty man. Everything I've heard of him speaks of his brilliance, complexity, with a defining feature of being able to move literally around the world among men, as a man. I wish I could have met him.
Good post, and I share your concern about secret anti conservatives in the professional fields. I was some what shocked when a close "liberal" friend recently said they would gladly take a shot at the current president, even knowing they would be caught. Claimed all his actions were fascist or undemocratic. I am fairly confident it was hyperbole, but it diminished them in my sight. Your Dad was a brilliant man.
I had a TDS friend say the same thing to me years ago. This is a form of dementia, at best, but I'm inclined to think the worst: this is demonic possession. They've lost their humanity.
My reaction to the shooting itself was "Well that sucks." & I expected the historical impact to be about like Reagan's shooting. Footnote or a paragraph at most in the history books. Then the celebrations started online.
I keep an iron grip on my monster. My friends will tell you I don't get mad easily. Most have never seen me get mad. Those comments from the Left had a 660nm filter over my vision and a strong urge to crank March Of Cambreadth on repeat. They moved it from footnote to at least chapter heading. Now the question is if he'll be remembered like Dr. King or Archduke Ferdinand.
Kirk will be remembered better than MLK, because he lived his faith absolutely, and held himself to the high standard he espoused. Sadly, MLK was human, and his foibles served to undermine his message. His killer boosted Charlie's signal infinitely, and made a martyr of him. The I Am Spartacus moment has happened. After all, as Jesus was on the cross, many mocked and laughed. They tried to kill His message, but truth is undying. And He came back, and will return again. Charlie's death has served to spread his message around the world. A week ago, I didn't know who he was, and now I greatly esteem him. I am sad I was not aware of him sooner, and I'm sad that he is not around any more, but the revival of faith his death has sparked is breathtaking to consider.
"Professionals posting their merriment over the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk might want to rethink their public dumbassery before said public dumbassery becomes Plaintiff’s Exhibit A at the trials where the institutions they work for are being sued into the poor-house."
Never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake.
Best post yet! Glad I'd gulped my coffee before I snorted my response to reading your father's reaction at the border, Ian!
God Almighty help us! The reaction to Charlie's murder by Progressive professionals (tiny, tiny 'p') is truly disgusting. They do not realize the respect for and trust o those professions that is being eroded like sand banks in raging floodwaters.
As a Retired Certified Safety Professional, my Board required me to practice and present myself in a moral and ethical manner. After 25 years, its not going to be undone soon. My upbringing and religion also taught me (well) to have the utmost respect and decorum (at the least) for those who passed.
Sept 11 anniversary, Aryna Zarutska, and Charlie Kirk all at the same time got me thinking.
I'm Christian
There is a subset of muslims are violently hostile towards non-muslims.
There are a large number that are OK with the violence, but won't particpate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the violent ones are 'real' muslims, or blame external factors for the violence.
I'm White
There is a subset of blacks that are violently hostile towards whites.
There are a larger number that are OK with the violence, but won't participate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the others are violent, or blame external factors for the violence.
I'm on the right, politically (Shocker, I know)
There is a subset of the left that is violently hostile towards conservatives.
There are a larger number that are OK with the violence but won't participate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the others are violent, or blame external factors for the violence.
We don't know the percentages of the groups, with the exception of the leftists who approve of political violence. HALF have SELF-REPORTED that they're OK with political violence. That number is probably higher, as some may have enough humanity left to know they're supposed to lie about that kind of thing. I expect that that is about the same for other groups. I'd be surprised if the 'violently hostile' was less than 10% for any of them.
And those are people (using the term loosely) that don't even know me.
From the other side of the pond I observe the developments in US politics. As in many other parts of the world, the US is increasingly polarized, to the point that it is hard to find middle ground opinion in MSM. I often see public rejoicing from both liberals and conservatives in the misfortunes of the other side. It is a downward spiral and it is concerning how this might affect professional care.
Just returning from a business trip to the US, I fortunately encountered many people who are more level-headed and respect difference in opinion. Media often do not represent the opinion of the silent majority.
I guess I am really naive, unschooled, and a bit of I don’t care, do your job, kind of person. I can not imagine being anything but professional and wanting a healthy outcome for a patient. I am not being asked at a hospital whether or not I am liberal or conservative. There is a person of xyz faith saying if you need to talk I am here.
I figure between the insurance companies denying coverage, the level of human trauma that comes into a hospital, the environment within the hospital, which can be good or bad, whether the hospital is a for profit, verses not for profit, there are a lot of concerns before who you voted for determines the level of care. Add to that the growing number of people not voting or becoming independents further messes with this thought.(I pray)
Quality of care is at this point not dependent upon who you voted but do you have good health insurance.
People dancing in the streets because of an attack reminds me of 9/11.
It's a comforting thought. I don't share it. I've been in the local emergency rooms a couple of times, and watched the staff check the social media presence of the people they're dealing with about the same time insurance coverage is looked at.
And that was before covidiocy started ripping masks off.
In the past, when I had hair, it was dark. I've got light eyes, and when I've spent time in the sun, my Middle Eastern ancestry shows - even if I'm built like the Northern European side.
I've got a fatwa on my ass, from my time working for Kick Back and Relax. All of that, and my Iraqi workers were still more accepting of me as one of them when I chewed out one of my 'terps in Lebanese Arabic than the average American Do-Gooder Liberal in Austin Texas ever was.
If you lived in a free State, it might have been different.
In the Iron Curtain West, I was horrified by so many of my neighbors or co-workers*. These were often natives who grew up with the lesson of Manzanar, of never again, who met former prisoners.
I discovered they would not merely, like the Democrats in WW2, turn a blind eye, but would have actively rounded up nissei. One, a former Marine, would have volunteered to guard the camps.
Dreadful.
NADALT? Sure. And Democrat Party delenda est. It's been a blight on the world since the Founding.
*Now that I think on it, none were on the far or one of the fringe rights. Though mind you, that might be IRL sample size. They might be willing to swallow a faked moon landing, but the Covid Panic, magic mask voodoo, and clotshot slid right off.
Yeah... there's a *world* of difference between Dr., RN, & Teachers blood dancing and celebrating and some idiot rubbing one out to the blood splatter.
I've been chewing on this exact issue for a couple of days now, and... yeah... I find the possibilities of deliberate neglect and deliberate harm by/from 'professionals' both more possible than I want to believe.
What gives me cold chills are the ones who feel that way but retain the common fucking sense not to verbalize it. It really wasn't something I had thought about before these videos.
Ditto. Was born in the 1940s, spent my first 43 years as a USAF brat & active duty sailor and then in merit based employment. Other than a background vibe the past 2 decades nothing gave me cold chills. Maybe I have lived in an insular bubble. I feel a chill now. Antonio Gramsci must be smiling up from Hell.
Part of the problem is that I used to work in that field (healthcare). I honestly don't know how anyone in that field can't become a conservative BECAUSE of that field. But I know plenty who aren't….
So I guess I need to be a little paranoid when dealing with phlebotomists, triage nurses, lab techs, and ear wax removal technicians. Maybe even the guy or gal boxing up my fried chicken at KFC.
‘Oh wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! Oh brave new world,
That has such people in’t.’
"Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer." ~~Rick
Wisdom from cartoons
When I was a little kid, a political figure, whom my parents disagreed with, was assassinated. Being a stupid little kid, I said "Good."
My dad, who was a military veteran who served in combat, ripped me a new one. He was livid at my response, and rightly so. He made it clear that disagreement was no reason to kill someone, or to celebrate someone's death.
I am grateful to God for giving me a dad who corrected me when I acted like the stupid, immature little kid that I was. He helped me to grow up. Too bad these medical "professionals" didn't have someone in their lives to help them outgrow their toxic childishness, and grow up.
I hate to say it but the proof of that your father showed was hysterical. Me I'd flunk. On the other hand I have been known to be mistaken for Italian. Guinea in the more choice vocabulary of NYC streets. I did not know whether to be insulted or complimented. I have always thought I have the map of Jerusalem on my face. No big nose though. Please keep these posts coming.
The genius of that story is manifold. Ian's father understood how men in that part of the world communicate, and he had the wisdom to resort to a method that settled the question unequivocally. By all accounts, he was a mighty man. Everything I've heard of him speaks of his brilliance, complexity, with a defining feature of being able to move literally around the world among men, as a man. I wish I could have met him.
I wish you could have, too, babe. He would have adored you.
I am certain the affection would have been mutual.
Good post, and I share your concern about secret anti conservatives in the professional fields. I was some what shocked when a close "liberal" friend recently said they would gladly take a shot at the current president, even knowing they would be caught. Claimed all his actions were fascist or undemocratic. I am fairly confident it was hyperbole, but it diminished them in my sight. Your Dad was a brilliant man.
I had a TDS friend say the same thing to me years ago. This is a form of dementia, at best, but I'm inclined to think the worst: this is demonic possession. They've lost their humanity.
30 year LEO, veteran of military two branches here. You are spot on. Yamamoto's comment post Pearl Harbor resonates in light of recent events.
My reaction to the shooting itself was "Well that sucks." & I expected the historical impact to be about like Reagan's shooting. Footnote or a paragraph at most in the history books. Then the celebrations started online.
I keep an iron grip on my monster. My friends will tell you I don't get mad easily. Most have never seen me get mad. Those comments from the Left had a 660nm filter over my vision and a strong urge to crank March Of Cambreadth on repeat. They moved it from footnote to at least chapter heading. Now the question is if he'll be remembered like Dr. King or Archduke Ferdinand.
Kirk will be remembered better than MLK, because he lived his faith absolutely, and held himself to the high standard he espoused. Sadly, MLK was human, and his foibles served to undermine his message. His killer boosted Charlie's signal infinitely, and made a martyr of him. The I Am Spartacus moment has happened. After all, as Jesus was on the cross, many mocked and laughed. They tried to kill His message, but truth is undying. And He came back, and will return again. Charlie's death has served to spread his message around the world. A week ago, I didn't know who he was, and now I greatly esteem him. I am sad I was not aware of him sooner, and I'm sad that he is not around any more, but the revival of faith his death has sparked is breathtaking to consider.
"Professionals posting their merriment over the brutal murder of Charlie Kirk might want to rethink their public dumbassery before said public dumbassery becomes Plaintiff’s Exhibit A at the trials where the institutions they work for are being sued into the poor-house."
Never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake.
Well, unless that mistake will have a direct adverse effect on your health and well-being.
Indeed. I was mostly taking that as identifying themselves so you know who said enemy is and take necessary evasive action.
Best post yet! Glad I'd gulped my coffee before I snorted my response to reading your father's reaction at the border, Ian!
God Almighty help us! The reaction to Charlie's murder by Progressive professionals (tiny, tiny 'p') is truly disgusting. They do not realize the respect for and trust o those professions that is being eroded like sand banks in raging floodwaters.
As a Retired Certified Safety Professional, my Board required me to practice and present myself in a moral and ethical manner. After 25 years, its not going to be undone soon. My upbringing and religion also taught me (well) to have the utmost respect and decorum (at the least) for those who passed.
Im very concerned for the Civility of America.
https://www.charliesmurderers.com/
Dox 'em
Sept 11 anniversary, Aryna Zarutska, and Charlie Kirk all at the same time got me thinking.
I'm Christian
There is a subset of muslims are violently hostile towards non-muslims.
There are a large number that are OK with the violence, but won't particpate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the violent ones are 'real' muslims, or blame external factors for the violence.
I'm White
There is a subset of blacks that are violently hostile towards whites.
There are a larger number that are OK with the violence, but won't participate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the others are violent, or blame external factors for the violence.
I'm on the right, politically (Shocker, I know)
There is a subset of the left that is violently hostile towards conservatives.
There are a larger number that are OK with the violence but won't participate in it.
The remainder are in denial that the others are violent, or blame external factors for the violence.
We don't know the percentages of the groups, with the exception of the leftists who approve of political violence. HALF have SELF-REPORTED that they're OK with political violence. That number is probably higher, as some may have enough humanity left to know they're supposed to lie about that kind of thing. I expect that that is about the same for other groups. I'd be surprised if the 'violently hostile' was less than 10% for any of them.
And those are people (using the term loosely) that don't even know me.
From the other side of the pond I observe the developments in US politics. As in many other parts of the world, the US is increasingly polarized, to the point that it is hard to find middle ground opinion in MSM. I often see public rejoicing from both liberals and conservatives in the misfortunes of the other side. It is a downward spiral and it is concerning how this might affect professional care.
Just returning from a business trip to the US, I fortunately encountered many people who are more level-headed and respect difference in opinion. Media often do not represent the opinion of the silent majority.
I guess I am really naive, unschooled, and a bit of I don’t care, do your job, kind of person. I can not imagine being anything but professional and wanting a healthy outcome for a patient. I am not being asked at a hospital whether or not I am liberal or conservative. There is a person of xyz faith saying if you need to talk I am here.
I figure between the insurance companies denying coverage, the level of human trauma that comes into a hospital, the environment within the hospital, which can be good or bad, whether the hospital is a for profit, verses not for profit, there are a lot of concerns before who you voted for determines the level of care. Add to that the growing number of people not voting or becoming independents further messes with this thought.(I pray)
Quality of care is at this point not dependent upon who you voted but do you have good health insurance.
People dancing in the streets because of an attack reminds me of 9/11.
It's a comforting thought. I don't share it. I've been in the local emergency rooms a couple of times, and watched the staff check the social media presence of the people they're dealing with about the same time insurance coverage is looked at.
And that was before covidiocy started ripping masks off.
In the past, when I had hair, it was dark. I've got light eyes, and when I've spent time in the sun, my Middle Eastern ancestry shows - even if I'm built like the Northern European side.
I've got a fatwa on my ass, from my time working for Kick Back and Relax. All of that, and my Iraqi workers were still more accepting of me as one of them when I chewed out one of my 'terps in Lebanese Arabic than the average American Do-Gooder Liberal in Austin Texas ever was.
If you aren't the subject of at least one fatwa by the time you're in your thirties, have you really lived?
Good point.
If you lived in a free State, it might have been different.
In the Iron Curtain West, I was horrified by so many of my neighbors or co-workers*. These were often natives who grew up with the lesson of Manzanar, of never again, who met former prisoners.
I discovered they would not merely, like the Democrats in WW2, turn a blind eye, but would have actively rounded up nissei. One, a former Marine, would have volunteered to guard the camps.
Dreadful.
NADALT? Sure. And Democrat Party delenda est. It's been a blight on the world since the Founding.
*Now that I think on it, none were on the far or one of the fringe rights. Though mind you, that might be IRL sample size. They might be willing to swallow a faked moon landing, but the Covid Panic, magic mask voodoo, and clotshot slid right off.
Holy carp, your Da sounds like one interesting character!