This advice is catered to a subtype of ladies that vote for “common sense gun control” and faint at the idea of carrying a knife - but then after some thought decide that self-defense is a good idea.
So they settle for this nonsense. They’d abandon that idea if they’d tried hitting anything - anything at all - a couch pillow - with the key ring in hand.
I suppose, ultimately, keys are better than nothing. But if you're down to them only, agreed, something has gone seriously wrong along the way. (Said something might include the people who raised you ... but that's perhaps another discussion.)
Given many (most?) cars on the road these days don't even have "key" keys any more, but rather keyfobs, attempting to use keys as weapons makes even less sense. Among other scenarios, imagine gripping your keyring and accidentally hitting the "unlock" button.
Um.. i bet in zero of those training classes did the actually full force punch anything, especially with the keys. Ladies if your taking a self defence course and the dont have you try the techniques full force on a padded human or even a dummy or just a punching bag, you are not actually being trained in self defence. You are just being trained in giving your money away.
Another thing on the pen. You can get a nice steel "tactical" pen with a glass breaker for $9 on Amazon. The only comment I've ever gotten on this pen is "Nice pen."
I suggest keys are worse than nothing, but government agencies insist on teaching it to the young uns in training, nonetheless.
A gun is first choice but get competent and get qualified to carry it and don’t leave home without it. Even better, carry at home too. A knife is also good and in some scenarios better than a firearm.
If you go into any federal building (including Vet Clinics) you aren't allowed to carry guns, knives, etc. Lots of other State buildings, too. Many office buildings, airports, etc. So you have to leave them in your car or get them confiscated. But, keys, they still let you take in.
I have gone through places with hair sticks - but those have to be shaped right to be truly usable. Putting your keys on a lanyard (Really good strong lanyard, not a cutesy thing) makes something with a little distance, but still not great (Put those useless keys on them, keep your car and house keys in your pocket). Pens have the same issues as hair sticks - not to mention they are deeply in the purse in most cases.
My best and favorite defense weapon is taking my hubby with me. Don't go to sketchy places alone. Don't go to dark places at night. Take my service dog with me in the daytime (no he's not trained for defense - you aren't allowed to do that - but they don't have to know that.)
I never took the key thing seriously. It just wasn't worth consideration. It rates a low "Meh" on the "Don't Bother" to "Fan-freakin-tastic" scale. But I reckon this is a perfect PSA for personal protection pro & con's (don't's). Thank you.
When I can't carry a gun, I put a folding knife and a Stinger in my pants pocket and curse the Federal, State and private bliss ninnies who ban weapons on their premises. I pray that if I am ever murdered in a gun-free zone that I void my bowels copiously with mostly digested beef & bean burritos and kimchi.
I like the current trend on facebook/insta/tiktok with the collapsible magician batons being pushed as self defense tools, given that they'll self-destruct with one strike, and it will still not hit as hard as a bare fist because it's made of foil and weighs nothing.
Thank you! I didn't know any of this other than yes I've read many times to grab your keys and stick some out between your fingers - the idea always made me queasy because If I'm close enough to flail at a bad guy he's close enough to wrest them away from me and I'm probably worse off at that point. Thanks to you I bought pepper spray - do people just hang this on their key ring or their purse or what? I will need to keep it where the grandbabies can't get a hold of it, for sure.
It's amusing to note that while retired cops, including yours surly, can recognize a kubaton, TSA can't... I have one I made myself out of some 302 stainless rod. It's .445 die. and six point five inches long. When questioned about it, and why it's attached to my key ring, I answer that I am a competitive shooter, and that tool removes separated cases from my barrel so that I'm not out of the competition (It will too, I have used it for just that, but that's not all it does.) They always nod and wave me through.
This advice is catered to a subtype of ladies that vote for “common sense gun control” and faint at the idea of carrying a knife - but then after some thought decide that self-defense is a good idea.
So they settle for this nonsense. They’d abandon that idea if they’d tried hitting anything - anything at all - a couch pillow - with the key ring in hand.
One might think of this as adding more chlorine to the gene pool.
I suppose, ultimately, keys are better than nothing. But if you're down to them only, agreed, something has gone seriously wrong along the way. (Said something might include the people who raised you ... but that's perhaps another discussion.)
Given many (most?) cars on the road these days don't even have "key" keys any more, but rather keyfobs, attempting to use keys as weapons makes even less sense. Among other scenarios, imagine gripping your keyring and accidentally hitting the "unlock" button.
Um.. i bet in zero of those training classes did the actually full force punch anything, especially with the keys. Ladies if your taking a self defence course and the dont have you try the techniques full force on a padded human or even a dummy or just a punching bag, you are not actually being trained in self defence. You are just being trained in giving your money away.
Just your money if you are really lucky.
Another thing on the pen. You can get a nice steel "tactical" pen with a glass breaker for $9 on Amazon. The only comment I've ever gotten on this pen is "Nice pen."
I suggest keys are worse than nothing, but government agencies insist on teaching it to the young uns in training, nonetheless.
A gun is first choice but get competent and get qualified to carry it and don’t leave home without it. Even better, carry at home too. A knife is also good and in some scenarios better than a firearm.
Always have a gun you can run toward if you are running away from the doors. If you dont already have it on you.
And, like me, you might live in New Jersey, where the politicians want your right to self-defense infringed as much as possible.
If you carry a ball bat in your vehicle, do your lawyer a favor and also carry a ball and glove
If you go into any federal building (including Vet Clinics) you aren't allowed to carry guns, knives, etc. Lots of other State buildings, too. Many office buildings, airports, etc. So you have to leave them in your car or get them confiscated. But, keys, they still let you take in.
I have gone through places with hair sticks - but those have to be shaped right to be truly usable. Putting your keys on a lanyard (Really good strong lanyard, not a cutesy thing) makes something with a little distance, but still not great (Put those useless keys on them, keep your car and house keys in your pocket). Pens have the same issues as hair sticks - not to mention they are deeply in the purse in most cases.
My best and favorite defense weapon is taking my hubby with me. Don't go to sketchy places alone. Don't go to dark places at night. Take my service dog with me in the daytime (no he's not trained for defense - you aren't allowed to do that - but they don't have to know that.)
I never took the key thing seriously. It just wasn't worth consideration. It rates a low "Meh" on the "Don't Bother" to "Fan-freakin-tastic" scale. But I reckon this is a perfect PSA for personal protection pro & con's (don't's). Thank you.
When I can't carry a gun, I put a folding knife and a Stinger in my pants pocket and curse the Federal, State and private bliss ninnies who ban weapons on their premises. I pray that if I am ever murdered in a gun-free zone that I void my bowels copiously with mostly digested beef & bean burritos and kimchi.
Google “degloving “? I … will not.
YES!!!!! I get so mad at articles that recommend keys between the fingers!!!! UGH!
Rather than a "Stinger", I'd recommend something like a "Pain Pen".
https://www.amazon.com/STREET-WISE-SECURITY-PRODUCTS-Pain/dp/B0BCMKF2N6/ref=sr_1_2?th=1
I like the current trend on facebook/insta/tiktok with the collapsible magician batons being pushed as self defense tools, given that they'll self-destruct with one strike, and it will still not hit as hard as a bare fist because it's made of foil and weighs nothing.
Damn, even a stick off the ground or a stone or a shard of glass is better than keys.
Personally, if a woman pulled out a gun, I'd wisely back off. No piece of ass is worth your life.
My niece carries around a bear light stun baton. I'd stay away from that too.
Thank you! I didn't know any of this other than yes I've read many times to grab your keys and stick some out between your fingers - the idea always made me queasy because If I'm close enough to flail at a bad guy he's close enough to wrest them away from me and I'm probably worse off at that point. Thanks to you I bought pepper spray - do people just hang this on their key ring or their purse or what? I will need to keep it where the grandbabies can't get a hold of it, for sure.
I buy OC with a pocket clip, and hang it in a pocket.
It's amusing to note that while retired cops, including yours surly, can recognize a kubaton, TSA can't... I have one I made myself out of some 302 stainless rod. It's .445 die. and six point five inches long. When questioned about it, and why it's attached to my key ring, I answer that I am a competitive shooter, and that tool removes separated cases from my barrel so that I'm not out of the competition (It will too, I have used it for just that, but that's not all it does.) They always nod and wave me through.
Blessed art thou, for thou art wise.
A monkeys fist? You mean a door knocker, like this? https://youtu.be/iQZUiiU7doQ